Anubhava – The experience
Nov 08
Ever since I joined my 3rd Semester in this college the first thing that I notice in this class was it lacked one thing “Unity”. I saw people having there own semi groups and these semi groups formed the whole class. Yup it was divided and I was in so called the Diploma group. Anyways time passed by and now we are now in the 7th Semester. Probably the best semester ever, this trip was not the first trip in my engineering but it was the BEST TRIP I ever had in my life. Enough of crap lets come back to the real thing.. Yup, Anubhava – The experience.

One fine day watch came and asked me.. Maga coming to the trip? Me and innu were like why not? Heck we don’t miss trips he he.. The trip was officially scheduled from 1st Nov to 4th Nov. The previous day we had this DOS internals I wonder how many would have studied seriously for this internal with the excitement of trip at back of their mind he he.. Ok internals got over, all of us met near the Big Canteen to discuss the time we are going to leave. The time was scheduled was 9:00 PM. I too reached at college by 9:00 and was shocked to see so many parents as if C.E.T counseling was going on. Finally we all left the college at 10:30 without Vignesh joining us for the trip as he had to attend some CAT, DOG shit lol.. Viggy missed you in the trip. The time was 12:00 am and it was Kannada Rajyotsava. We wished each other and the epic Antakhsri Battle began. Girls Vs Boys. Girls singing in Hindi and Guys singing in Kannada as a tribute to the day.


They sung and sung and sung and they never seemed to be running out of songs. We all clapped and enjoyed the session, heck I need to learn Kannada songs. The whole night none slept, by morning 4 we reached near the dam where we stopped to see the sunrise.. Ok I agree it was not to see the sunrise but to waste time so we get more time while checking out of the hotel next day
. We all spent time near the dam gate and waited for the time to pass when Sanath cracked the classic “ Aang Barli Shettrai” Joke.


As the time passed by, the sky turned pinkish Orange which meant it was time for the Sunrise for which we stopped
. We few guys climbed over the bus to get a clear view, but guess what there was another person who wanted to be on top was, yup it was none other than Suhasini , phew with in no time she was on the top of bus too. All girls were awestruck and worried and most were thinking what’s wrong with this girl lol..
We spent some time on the bus and moved to the hotel to get fresh. When we reached the hotel which was booked from Internet seemed to be like more of a jail than a hotel lol.. Hotel Decent?? lol no it was Hotel Woodland. Someone fell for the name.. As soon we discovered it was no use we moved on the a much better hotel Rajmahal. We all got freshed up, had our breakfast and were ready for officially beginning the trip.
Day 1: Destination Chikmagalur
The best part of this trip was it started with a trek , we all marched towards MANIKYADHARA falls over the Baba-Budan Range. This Range is 1,926 meters above sea level, we walked, walked across never ending mountains to reach the Manikyadhara Falls.


The water was almost freezing only few guys dared entered the falls into the spine chilling cold water. The fall was amazing, the water falls with so much force it almost feels like you are being hit by a whip. Ouch it hurted, it was not the coldness of water it was the force with which it was hitting which made us enjoy it. Yeah suhasini was here too he he..


Again we walked back to the Bus to have our lunch. The scenery from the top of mountain was beautiful and we were actually standing among the clouds. We moved on to Belur to visit the Chennakeshava temple. We would never have understood the details of this temple if we had not hired a guide. The guide with his long pointed umbrella took us around the temple so show us the minute details of the carvings. All carvings spoke for themselves. The details on these carvings were not only unbelievable but it also reflected the old advanced technology of the Kings. Hey we Indians were not that bad in technology wise even at that time. It took around 1 hour for the guide to explain some part of the temple. The day was over we all rested and prepared us for the next BIG day.
Day 2: Destination Jog Falls, Shivamoga
This was the best day of the trip. Ok ok.. all days were the best but hands down when it comes to the experience we had in Jog. To reach Jog we travelled and travelled and travelled and travelled!! We left the hotel and 9 am and we reached Jog Falls by 5 PM. We travelled hmm.. 1,2,3.. ok 8 hours!!! Now we didn’t waste anymore time and started climbing down Jog Falls. We instructed girls to stay up but they were in no mood to listen
. We climbed down the falls, by the time we reached the bottom of the falls the dawn was setting. We must hurry up again. Because once the night sets in it is too tough to climb up. Well we found out that later anyways hehe.. Most of us went till the end of the Rock. The rocks were too slippery, for those of you who didn’t knew.. Jog Has 4 tracks or the water flow in Jog Falls is split into Raja, Roarer, Rani and Rocket. The part of the fall we went was Rani. There was not much water in the falls hence they let us trek down the fall.


The real fun began when we had to trek up!! We were out of refreshment and light!! We had only few torch and mobile phones. We climbed the fall supporting and motivating each other. This was the part which has bonded this class together, installed a new unity in this class. It was really tough climbing the fall and we all were seriously tired and waiting for the moment to see the last step. It became more of a survival than a trek lol. Once we were up the fall (thank god all made up safely without anyone getting hurt!!) we all held each others hands to celebrate the moment by shouting and jumping. As we started moving again in Bus, the dance session began all over again.. It was not bus it was a disco station!! Almost all danced in the bus.. Extra energetic were Swetha and Sandhya ever ready to dance!! We reached back the hotel to cool off our heals and to be ready for the next day trekking.
Day 3: Destination Yana
The third day had lots of surprises waiting for us!! It was officially the day of leeches!! As soon we stepped to start the trek to Yana caves the first leech we encountered was on my pants. From here almost 90% of us fell prey to these leeches. This area was heavily infested with leeches. Make sure you carry salt, or chunna etc. After trekking some 3 Kms we saw the sharp edged, dark Yana caves.


Most of us left back to the bus and actually missed seeing inside the caves. It was an out of world experience. Well nothing to blame specially after the Jog Falls and Leech attack lol.. Most preferred rushing back to the bus. But few of us went through both the caves. Also halted at a small stream of water. We all came all the way back to bus only to find out we were seriously short of water. In the bus all seems to be discussing there leech experience. Later we stopped near a stream of water to have our lunch. We drank the flowing water and filled up our cans to move to our next destination the OM Beach! We reached at perfect time to play in beach.. Not too hot nor too dark!! But as our bad luck had it.. 3 people expired the previous day at the beach. Also the beach was a privately owned beach so we all were literally chased away from the beach. So many ass got burned!! Lol.. But the beach mood was not yet over.. We all headed towards the Gokarna Beach.. We all played like small kids on the beach.. As we already got late because of the trouble at OM beach we could only play for short duration. We had planned to play Kabbadi at the beach but it was too late!! L . All wet wanting to change we headed towards bus. But girls never seemed to be finish changing up fast!! Grr.. We all guys waiting outside the bus.. Half of them angry!! Only me and watch knew the problem we were in lol.. Right watch ? ha ha..
Finally they came out!! We guys got a chance to get our cloth and change!! After changing.. Yeah sand was still there lol.. We headed for the Royal Dinner. As a starter they gave us tomato soup, after that we ordered the Royal Paneer masala!! It tasted just like the tomato soup we had some time before lol.. With paneer pieces in it. We all enjoyed our Paneer masala.. Yummy.. We liked it so much that no one was ready to eat it and save it for later!! I saw Joshi putting the paneer masala in a packet and hiding it inside his pocket ha ha.. (kidding
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Day 4: Destination Murudeshwar
This day was rather a quiet day.. We had plan to go for another trek but most suggested we already had enough trek J . So we decided to keep it quiet by visiting temples and heading back to Bangalore. First place we visited was the Murudeshwar Temple which was at a walk able distance from the hotel we boarded. We all took our own time to visit around the temple. Later we also walked around to visit the Huge Shiva Statue.


They didn’t let us go near it but it’s sheer size was amazing!! Some of us did some shopping , once done we moved back to the hotel to move to our next destination the Maravanthe Beach. This beach was pretty dangerous with water hitting the side with great force. We decided not to get in and rather sit by side and enjoy it’s beauty!! It was a bit hot!! But Chalta hai
By evening we reached Anegudda ( Ganesha Temple). After praying all of us were ready to head back to Bangalore!! But wait.. I see people buying this weird looking pens lol.. That kid sold almost all his pens thanks to girls!! Now it was time to say Good Bye and head back home!!
The fun was not over yet!! It was turn of Crime reporter Arjun Rao!! Fortunately we found a mike in the bus!! And there he started!! HOD part was the best.. Then another classic was the Nitty I Love You.. Composed by Satish, PK and Shivkumar.. We all laughed so hard!! I almost had a heart attack laughing!! The massage parlor and feel my love thing was the best of best!! I still laugh thinking about it!! HA HA!! Thanks man!! You gave perfect ending to the trip!!
Day 5: Home sweet home
It was morning 6 when we all realized the end was near!! But most were excited to see home again. We were already aware that we were officially suspended by HOD. So we all decided to meet up again at 10 to meet up with HOD. When we met him he was so angry ok ok.. he was pretending to be angry.. When we gave him the apology letter he again got so angry that he tore our apology letter and threw back at shayam’s face (lol no he just threw down), his anger only went down after he tore all the papers around his desk lol.. Dunno if he tore his house documents papers also in the anger lol.. May be his salary slip also. So beware, next time if you take any paper around him ha ha.. Raju……….
We all were seriously drained.. and needed a good time sleep. That day I slept 3-4 times lol.. Even dashed someone’s bike with my bike while riding as I couldn’t hold the break at right time haha.. and scolded him for negligence lol.. But actually it was his fault as he was speeding on a cross road. Never Mind
Day 6: Jab We Met
Day 6?? You must be guessing.. well ladies and Gentlemen the trips is not over yet he he.. This was another fun day.. Waited for HOD for more than a hour and he never seemed to turn up. So we decided to go for a movie rather and meet HOD when he is back. We all moved again to Vaibhav to watch the latest Kareena- Shahid Kapoor flick “ Jab We met”. The movie was great fun to watch too. We all had a good laugh thanks to the movie. Came back to college and he was still not there.. and Day 6 got over!!
Day 7: Mission HOD
As soon as I reached college I came to know that HOD is calling us all. He wanted the list of all those who went for the trip. We made a complete list and gave it to him, but he found it too huge, he needed few bakra’s to screw. We some barka’s gave names and got our name underlined. Actually our HOD was too scared that Finally we were allowed to attend class.. DAMN!! I wished if we were suspended that day also. So after that another 4 days holidays it would have been longer than a semester holiday that VTU gives HA HA..
Conclusion: ( IEEE Regulations)
Don’t mind if this entry was not written according to the IEEE standard (Shashank ?? ) as if I care a shit about the standards lol.. DAMN SE (Software Engineering lol)
Ok to conclude this trip.. This was the best trip!! One thing to learn from this trip was it doesn’t matter what place you go. All the matters with whom you go with! How you enjoy! You guys were really a surprise.. I was not expecting this class to open so fast so soon!! You guys actually made me write it this long!! Do let me know how was the blog entry or if I missed anything any where. Also people send me your experience about your trip I will add it over here.. Don’t worry about the length of the content! Just write your heart out!!

Before I finish this blog entry.. Thank you Joshi, Watch, Suhas, Sanath without you guys this trip wouldn’t have been as smooth as it was!! Also to all those who came to the trip!!
Thanks for the memories people..
I Love you all!!
Vidya’s Experience:Anubahava was really an awesome experience. first of all thanks to all those who made it happen especially joshi , sanath ,suhas n watch. Each day in the trip was a new experience and sanath named it right ‘anubhava’ there cannot be a better name than this. The journey started with the never ending anthakshari. Guys an girls were in full enthu n had no intentions to give up . Some people were busy singing even after the lights went off n everyone went back to sleep. The bus stopped early morning at Egachi dam at around 4:30. Most of us got down from the bus even though we were shivering with cold. Some of them were having a stroll , some where happily gazing the sky lying down on the road n others were busy chatting and cracking jokes.suhasini was the center of attraction that day . Her adventures made people dumbstruck. She climbed on top of the bus twice n am sure people inside the bus who were happily sleeping must have thought that it was an earthquake(never mind su just kidding).After we reached Chikmangalore we freshened up n started our journey to bb hills. We had a small photo session near the falls on the way. Suhasini was doing something adventurous there too. It was really cool on top of bb hills with beautiful sceneries around. We had nice fun trekking there. All of us were damn hungry as we returned back to have lunch thanks to people who were serving food there it was a great relief. People were fast asleep as we travelled towards belur. But we had major fun while going back to hotel from Belur with Sanath doing Barathanatyam . His expressions were so funny that nobody could afford to miss it. It was a laugh riot.The next day we started our journey to jog watching Bommarilu. On the way we visited ‘Shwetha Deluxe’ Shwetha was all smiles making herself a perfect host. When we reached jog it was evening but we all climbed down with full energy though our legs started shivering. The rocks were slippery so most of them dint go till the waterfall. As we were returning back it became dark but still we enjoyed climbing the rocks .thanks to all the guys who helped us make it an easy task. U guys were really caring …….’hare ram hare ram’ was the manthra that evening n it was started by Kakolu. All of us were damn thursty and the shop somewhere at the top came as a savior. When we reached on top we formed a big huddle. All of us were jumping as if we had conquered the Mount Everest. It was the most memorable moment during the trip. As we got into the bus nobody seemed to be exhausted the songs n dance did not stop. suhas was imitating nitty, panitha, hod, joshi and shyam. It was so perfect…….suhas ,u r too good at it man.Next day some of them were tired of trekking but as we reached Yana they changed their minds n everyone started walking towards the caves. The leeches on the way gave an unforgettable experience which made most of us return back after seeing the temple. We all had lunch that day on the banks of a river and moved towards Gokarna.Shwetha n Sandya entertained all of us with their dance. The funniest part was Ullas trying to get the girls dance with him. He even climbed on top of the seat and started dancing. But the girls got so petrified looking at him that they started running away.We played at the Gokarna beach in the evening till sunset. We had our dinner in a hotel as we travelled towards Murudeshwar. The highlight of the dinner of course was ‘panneer’. Next day we visited murudeshwar temple, marvanthe beach and anegudda ganapathi temple. During the journey towards bangalore suhas n sanath were enacting some of the kannada film songs….sanath plays the heroine all the time n nobody can beat him.
After the dinner all of them went to sleep and we reached Bangalore early morning. The trip was over but all of us were n still are in a holiday mood. It was all possible bcoz of joshi, sanath, suhas and watch they made everyone feel comfortable and cheered them up if they went low . joshi, hats off to u …..U provided us with good facilities and maintained the spirit throughout the trip even if u were tired at times and finally Jeba, thanks to you for giving me a chance to thank everyone…..
Sahana C.S Experience:Hmmmm…. this trip– Anubhava – the Experience is an unforgettable event in my life… I just cudnt believe v had com to the end of our engineering life… v were in the final year n yet had not gone out with friends for more than a day… Then suddenly the long lasted plan was put into implementation n v all planned to leave for the trip on 31st night… Even after the tripwas finalised, the more difficult part was to convince ppl to join us for the trip… more than preparing for internals v spent time convincin ppl n emotionally blackmailin them to com for the trip… Finally everyone agreed n the entire gang was so enthusiastically discussin abt the dresses n baggage n stuff… all excited abt the trip… v went home after dos test began to pack n get ready with som lastminute shoppin n all that…
Finally allset to leave for the trip…. sayin tata bye bye at home n gettin dads to carry the baggage was not satisfying…. all the moms also were so eager to drop their daughters… that was time for all parents to gettogether in college exchanging their views abt their daughters.. who is gud at wat.. who sleeps how much… who does wat work at home n etc etc…. finally we left!! the fun began…. all girls sittin in the front seats n guys at the back… soon after the initial setup came the shuffling… where ppl made themselves comfortable sitting next to their loved ones!!
here v trekked… i dint know trekkin was to go up walkin in the mountains even though the bus cud go till there…. i kept wonderin y v were walkin like mads wen the bus cud take us all the way till the top… then i realised the fun… wen everyone went away faster… i was left behind… not bcos i was tired… but bcos i had started admiring the beauty of the hills… v chose to walk on the rugged rocks rather than the straight tarredroad… thats wen the spirit of trekkin arose!! then v took som pix… n saw the guys enjoi near the manikya falls…. though v cud not get wetstanding under the falls v sttod close to it.. the water that was sprinkling on us gave the whole effect of it… the water was so cold n nice… felt like stayin there only… after that was lunch – tomato rice n curd rice with chips… ate well n headed for the belur temple!! this was suhas’ favourite place… dunno y… the guide was very gud there.. he explained abt the hoysala art… the best part was the bangle carvings which were movable!!!! then we had dinner n slept….the next day v ate breakfast n travelled n travelled to reach jog falls… saw bommarailu movie in the bus… a nice one!! thanx to the english translation that made us understand it!! then v also danced asusual sandhya n shakirashwetha n suhas n sanath in the lead role… more funnier part was ullas… to pull out ppl from their places to get them dance in a style so typical of “ullas”!! also inayat with dupatta dancing for “nimbe hanni nantha hudgi bandlu nodu”… and sanath in his bharathnatyam style… suhas n watch dancing for mungaru male… sanath n suhas for “enoo mohaaaa” with sanath’s broken waist style!!!!! hehehhe… can never forget those steps!!! well… we reached jog by 5′oclock… this was the most memorable part of the trip… gettin down was somehow easier i felt… not much of a difficulty there… though towards the end i fell thrice flat in water… wen i fell i was supposed to b scared… but enjoyed the force of the water which was pushin me further down… had a tickling sensation when water went inside!!!
most of us were lucky enuf to b spared by these blood suckers… though som ppl like kakolu were shown the sweetness of their blood!!!! after listenin to the story of the place… v headed towards the caves… where somppl backed out n headed back towards the bus… but i was very determined…. had felt a bit dizzy @ jog n i had to prove to myself that i was not so weak n so decided to go with the others towards the caves… they were awesome!! sunlight peepin thru the caves n lighting the place… took som nice pix over here.. the most important thing here was a waterbody… where v cud find bigger leeches in the water but yet managed to walk thru rather run thru in this water just for the fun of it, there was nothin to c infact!!!then slowly energy levels started fallin… had som glucose n left to reachthe bus… walked back to find that there was not a drop of water with anyone… then v travelled hunting for a place with water so that v cud hav lunch… v stopped at a river n filled our bottles n ate lunch n left for om beach… but were not allowedto play there… so v left for gokarna beach… played in the beach n then left to murudeswara… had dinner there… v were supposed to b so tired after the day’s long journey n war with the leeches… but started playin cards… played n played n played till 3.45 am… then v decided to sleep n slept… already v were hungry by then… but somhow slept n got up early n took cold water bath this day… a memorable experience again… all these days v were sweating so badly after hotwaterbath… but this day v were actually shivering with cold… hehehhe
at this time… all of us were terribly worn out… puking… oops… in the tapori language – omlett haakadu… hehehhe so funny!!!! then v ate dinner n slept to reach bangalore @ 6 in the morning… at this time v were all feelin bad taht v had com to the end of the trip.. but @ the same time happy abt gettin back home to c our parents…. decided to meet in coll @ 10 to get screwed by HOD..
after the trip v slept so much for so many hours continuously… slept like a log… in an unconscious state…
next day again back to coll – n went to Jab we met n enjoyed in the theatre again…
next day v got our supension revoked n had to attend classes asusual… gettin screwed by classes n ppl like nitty… really wish v cud rewind a time machine n get back to 31st night n enjoy everything all over again…
but more importantly as allwin said there is a new unity n bonding in the class which had been missing for these many years…. but.. better late than never… this is not the end but the beginning of a new life in the final year of our engineering… its never like “they lived happily everafter” n everything ends there… but for us its gonna b “v r going to live happily from now on….”!!!! right ppl????
Shruti Sharma’s Experience:Hello everybody…. Cs and Vidya have already posted their experienc abt the trip… i wanna tel u abt the not so well known events of the trip.. hehe… this happened in the hotel @ murdeshwar..8 of us(shyam,vivek,ranju,pras,sk,me,kakolus,shil) played bluff for a long time… vivek was the winner!!! he bluff s like crazy…and then aroun 1.45 all the guys went to their room…. the guys played this prank n scared us lik crazy!!!!!We were in one of the rooms in the ground floor and around 2.30 in the night someone was scratchin on our window… n makin all sorts of noises.. my gawd.. Istill cant belive that we got soooooooo scared … rushed out of the room.. called shyam,vivek,pras!!!!! we dint sleep the whole night!!! seems funny just to hink abt it now… n the funny names we gave ppl…..Suhas aka darde-disco, sahana kakolu aka chicken hmmmm and many more… the trip has been a memorabl one… how can i forget the “Hare Ram Hare Ram Hare Krishna Hare Ram” chants while we were coming back from jog… n the huddle after all of us reached back successfully from jog… it seemed as though we had climbed the Mt Everest..Inayat’s dance was amazin…and arjun’s crime diary.. .And 3 cheers to all the guys… you all were just amazing… truly… the 3 days of trek,especially Jog would not have been possible without u guys…. U guys are really wonderful… hats off to u for all the care…
Feel proud to belong to 7B.. the bonding has increased immensely thru this trip… hope it remains this way for ever!!!! And thanks to the shaitan chokdi(su,josh,sanu,watch) for such an awesommmme trip.. it wouldnt have been possible without u guys… love u loads!!!!

Hey guys,
First of all thanks to Allwin that was an awesome post. This trip truly did bring us together din t….as jeba ritely said this is THE BEST EVER TRIP of my LIFE. anyways al said sometin to be done…..-> i hav uploaded around some 800 pics of places and ppl so f u wanna see t u can send me a blank e-mail to my gmail id. i av resized the images to 1024×768 n i think that s good enough so start sending me the emails…..also if in case u guys wan al of u can give me ur camera snaps as soft copies il put up those snaps even.
Amazing memory jeba!!!!!
while I was reading this I really relived those moments simple superb and
Thanks once again to Joshi, Watch, Suhas, Sanath without you guys we would never had these cherishing memories! Also to all those who came to the trip!! and making this trip such memorable one!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you guys liked it.. Just tried to take everyone for a trip revisit through this blog entry.. I guess I achieved it!!
Hey Jeba!!!!
Too cool man!!! awesom!! u’ve covered every part of it da… hats off to u!!! the logo of teh trip esp is very nice… keep it up!!!
love ya guys!!
thanks for all the support n cooperation without which everythin would ve been a flop!!
i m so elated seeing ur blogs.. i m not able to write anythin as of now but surely will in a matter of time!!
i d lik to see all of them jot down their ANUBHAVA’s here!!
regards,
Dard-e-Disco SUHAS
hey…its seems to be so nostalgic already as we go thru the blog entries….tryin to relive each of those moments…can never forget such a good time nor can i remember having such a good time as this earlier…….thanks to everyone for this……..n a special thanks to all the guys who helped us(all the girls) during our trek at jog falls…….it wud not ve been possible without them…three cheers to all of u…m so happy to be a part of this trip..great friends.great memories…………love u all ….
Jeba!!
“One thing to learn from this trip was it doesn’t matter what place you go. All the matters with whom you go with! How you enjoy! You guys were really a surprise..”
Man.. this made me go EMOTIONAL and turn back to my College days! You are absolutely right.. its all with who we are rather than what we do
!!! This was one of the best entry I should say..though not a frequent visitor to your blog.. I do pop-in occasionally !!
Love ya!! So so freaking cool post!
!! Cheers to your friends as well.. I better hit my ass and be active in my blogging
!!! Damn I am getting to retard
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Hope to get back ….soon
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Cheers Jeba & Happy Birthday Dude!
feels gr8 to hear about someones rocking trip experience … woh din yaad aa gaye yaar when we frds had gone on a trip of our college here.
Enjoyed a lot …huh!!!
i liked ur blog and updated with interesting info… will b back soon. cya
jeba.. i m not related to u guys or trip in any way,,.. but just crossed over ur blog as i was hunting for our class freek out trip to yana..
u guys rock buddy!!!
gr8 work dude..
Landed here while searching for info on Yagachi Dam…
visited that place a month ago, nice place…
Hi,
Our team was planing a trip to Shimoga Dist for next week, I was googling some information, i was routed to this url….
Hey Jeb you know what it was great reading this post, i loved going through text you people wrote esplacially THE JOG TREK Down, and sahana’s lines of Philosophy on treking at budhangiri hills. It recalled my memories of our college trip during same 7th sem but in 2005, though I enjoyed a lot in that I didn’t find more intersting than yours, the only reason was our lecturers were part of that trip. let me tell you If i get an opportunity i would like to meet Shuhasini , sahana, arjun, sanath……..
Of course how could I afford to miss kakolu, to find out how sweet is she and figure out why leeachs tend towards her……..
I Assume that if you people make this happen again its goin to be a history…… Never mind I have no plans to join you, but still you people can try. Do correct me if I am wrong Mr.Joshi , Mr. Sanath ,Mr. Suhas n Mr. Watch.
Though you plople don’t know me nor I do you.
Anyways thanks, thanks for sharing all your experiances